Cluster fu@ked
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Cluster fu@ked
Hello again boxer people.
I've got another problem with my R1200S, which I need your help and advice with.
My instrument cluster seems to have lost power.
It's intermittent to start with but now, it seems, more off than on.
When it is off, all that works is the clock (time), the mileometer and the reserve fuel mileage range.
When it is off, I lose the speedo; the rev counter; neutral light; all tell-tale lights; gear indicator; trip 1 and 2 counter and; instrument illumination lights.
Does this seen like a common problem? An easy fix? Or is my bike having a mental breakdown?
Please help. Your knowledge and advice will be very much appreciated.
Regards
Keith.
P.s. the engine still starts, runs and everything else on the bike works normally. The neutral light seems to stay on until after the engine starts. Not sure if the engine would start if the neutral light went out before I hit the start button.
I've got another problem with my R1200S, which I need your help and advice with.
My instrument cluster seems to have lost power.
It's intermittent to start with but now, it seems, more off than on.
When it is off, all that works is the clock (time), the mileometer and the reserve fuel mileage range.
When it is off, I lose the speedo; the rev counter; neutral light; all tell-tale lights; gear indicator; trip 1 and 2 counter and; instrument illumination lights.
Does this seen like a common problem? An easy fix? Or is my bike having a mental breakdown?
Please help. Your knowledge and advice will be very much appreciated.
Regards
Keith.
P.s. the engine still starts, runs and everything else on the bike works normally. The neutral light seems to stay on until after the engine starts. Not sure if the engine would start if the neutral light went out before I hit the start button.
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Re: Cluster fu@ked
Caveat #1: I have never owned an R1200S, but many people, myself included, have had similar issues on the R1100S
On the R1100S, the fuse boxes and wires cable tied to the front sub frame have a bad habit of insulation on the wiring wearing through where it's cable tied to the front sub frame, or the wires at the fuse box connections failing. on your R1200S, I'd try hunting around the fuse box first of all, unplugging and checking the fuses first then checking the wiring to the fuse holders second, and if that all looks sound, follow the wiring up to the instrument cluster looking for signs if the insulation wearing through.
Good luck!
Paul
On the R1100S, the fuse boxes and wires cable tied to the front sub frame have a bad habit of insulation on the wiring wearing through where it's cable tied to the front sub frame, or the wires at the fuse box connections failing. on your R1200S, I'd try hunting around the fuse box first of all, unplugging and checking the fuses first then checking the wiring to the fuse holders second, and if that all looks sound, follow the wiring up to the instrument cluster looking for signs if the insulation wearing through.
Good luck!
Paul
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Re: Cluster fu@ked
As above , not the problem you have but an old thread about broken and worn / frayed wiring insulation behind the left hand panel.
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20777&hilit=ignition+switch
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20777&hilit=ignition+switch
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Re: Cluster fu@ked
12s has canbus so doesn't that mean no fuses 

Phil.
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Thank you Micheal I'm glad that's cleared that up, now where's that Oakley glasses bagBoxermed69 wrote:It do Philip![]()
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Phil.
R1200S and loving it !
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R1200S and loving it !
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Re: Cluster fu@ked
Not strictly true, it has "electronic fuses" that reset themselves if tripped after an ignition restart.popsky wrote:12s has canbus so doesn't that mean no fuses
But no fuse box as such.
Yours pedantically

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Re: Cluster fu@ked
There's always ONEBoxered wrote:Not strictly true, it has "electronic fuses" that reset themselves if tripped after an ignition restart.popsky wrote:12s has canbus so doesn't that mean no fuses
But no fuse box as such.
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Phil.
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Re: Cluster fu@ked

But that would explain the initial intermittent problem, if there is now a permanent short caused by wire chaffing that would make sense?
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Good point, well made. Good job I made that caveat, ehpopsky wrote:12s has canbus so doesn't that mean no fuses

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popsky wrote:Thank you Micheal I'm glad that's cleared that up, now where's that Oakley glasses bagBoxermed69 wrote:It do Philip![]()
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Re: Cluster fu@ked
Steep hill, broken indicator, Ryan's sunglasses bag, ring any bells lolBoxermed69 wrote:popsky wrote:Thank you Micheal I'm glad that's cleared that up, now where's that Oakley glasses bagBoxermed69 wrote:It do Philip![]()
MikeSorry mate, you've lost me there
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The steep hill - broken indicator bit I remember wellpopsky wrote:Steep hill, broken indicator, Ryan's sunglasses bag, ring any bells lolBoxermed69 wrote:popsky wrote:
Thank you Micheal I'm glad that's cleared that up, now where's that Oakley glasses bagSorry mate, you've lost me there
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Re: Cluster fu@ked
Didn't the bag hold your indicator together?Boxermed69 wrote:The steep hill - broken indicator bit I remember wellpopsky wrote:Steep hill, broken indicator, Ryan's sunglasses bag, ring any bells lolBoxermed69 wrote:
Sorry mate, you've lost me there
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Mike....but Ryan's sunglasses bag
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p.s sorry for the thread hijack
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Re: Cluster fu@ked
Quite possibly Phil. My memory is shocking at times. Now where did I put that tin of mackerel...?
Quite right re. the hijack. Sorry
I'll shut up now.
Mike
Quite right re. the hijack. Sorry

Mike