Garmin Mapsource Tutorial : For Beginners

soggybottoms · Post by **soggybottoms** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:56 pm

This comes off
BestBikingRoads.com

hosted by David Robertson

http://www.motorcycle-navigation.net/fo ... d.php?t=62

Had a quick scoot 'round an' it looks useful.

SB

throttlemeister · Post by **throttlemeister** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:21 pm

Nice tutorial, but it completely misses the single most important rule for creating routes in mapsource, one when not observed, is probably the root cause for 90% of peoples problems when creating routes:

Do not, not ever, place a routing point or waypoint on an intersection or road crossing. Just don't.

Put it before, or after, but never on or it will confuse the heck out of mapsource.

snavetrauts · Post by **snavetrauts** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:31 am

Talking of mapsource... as you do.

I have the Garmin Quest...the software for it up to city navigator for europe v8 worked on windows 98. I have a Mac which will not run mapsource at all. So I get out this old banger of a notebook computer to plan my routes.

V9 (2006/7) comes out, and will only work in windows XP... buggered!

Then mapsource create certain programs for the Mac, allowing you to download new software etc..BUT not plan routes on a PC then download to the quest.

Has anyone out there come across this?... has anyone got around this at all.??

Ps.. Excellent document by the way....So nice to get something for free these days. Thanks to the author.

cheers

Stuart

throttlemeister · Post by **throttlemeister** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:44 pm

Stuart, can't you run XP from within a virtual machine on your mac? I know it's a bit of a bugger, but untill there is a native mac binary..

snavetrauts · Post by **snavetrauts** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:55 am

Hi Throttlemeister

Yes I can.. but it's a real pain and quite unreliable.

I have just upgraded to Panther, so together with Boot camp I will be able to run XP or Vista. So hopefully.....??

Cheers

Stuart

POB · Post by **POB** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:09 am

I have an iMac, and there are a couple of work aplications that won't run on OS X so I had to use Boot Camp recently to install some SW under XP.

All I can say is that, as a Windows machine, my Mac is awesome. Very stable (except for the annoying constant updates), very fast and still with the nice Mac form factor and ease of use.

I also have to boot into Windows to flash the SW on my mobile phone and to update my Garmin i3. It's all I need: colour, routing & 3d, tiny size, speed cams and excellent battery life.

I've even used the sucker mount on the middle of the rev counter a few times in the past.

snavetrauts · Post by **snavetrauts** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:22 am

Hi POB,

I have now got panther and therefore bootcamp..... but have you tried purchasing XP... it's bloody expensive???? just for the occasional run??

Stuart

throttlemeister · Post by **throttlemeister** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 7:25 pm

Isn't Panther very old? Like the original OSX? Being succeeded by Tiger and now Leopard two weeks ago?

I may be talking BS, I don't know - me no apple expert.

(and I prolly never will, having an Apple-zealot, fanboy and worshipper for a brother. And annoying the hell out of me with it!)

snavetrauts · Post by **snavetrauts** » Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:28 pm

Whoops... I meant leopard.... your brother has taste, brains, imagination and probably no money??

Cheers

Stuart

jivebiker · Post by **jivebiker** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:30 am

I run Mac OS X Leopard, and use VMware Fusion to run XP and its applications through virtualisation.

I must say it is very impressive, especially if I turn on Unity, which allows me to run Windows progs without seeing a Windows desktop.

So far has worked with everything Ive thrown at it, including USB to PDA and an Olympus voice recorder which has no Mac drivers at all.

A better option than Boot Camp, as I have no desire to keep rebooting, or to partition my H/D. Also I can play with Linux and other OS's and then just delete them when Im done.

As for the cost of XP... buy a knackered PC with a genuine XP installation disk. As long as you have the registration number you are away. I used the XP disk from a very dead Dell laptop (£20 eBay), and it all worked fine.

throttlemeister · Post by **throttlemeister** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:04 am

snavetrauts wrote:Whoops... I meant leopard.... your brother has taste, brains, imagination and probably no money??

Cheers

Stuart

I will not discuss his taste and brains, but re money; probably not anymore, since he has a powermac, powerbook and ibook.

But with an attitude like if Jobs would announce he is God incarnated he would probably believe it and spread the word, I don't even want to get near anything with an Apple logo anymore, no matter how nice it may be for certain tasks.

snavetrauts · Post by **snavetrauts** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:38 am

Jivebiker.... thanks, I had not even thought of that. I had been contemplating downloading a "naughty" copy... but even that is tricky.

I will look into the option you mentioned...... I had previously run Virtual PC 6 with XP thrown in the package.. but it was painfully slow.... what I did not realise when I upgraded to the MacBook Pro was that the intel based macs would not run Virtual PC6 or 7.

Throttlemeister.... Like your brother, I have a love of the apple kit. (and no money for similar reasons) but my passion is photography/music which is where Macs come into their own. Be patient with him

throttlemeister · Post by **throttlemeister** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:22 am

snavetrauts wrote:Throttlemeister.... Like your brother, I have a love of the apple kit. (and no money for similar reasons) but my passion is photography/music which is where Macs come into their own. Be patient with him

You haven't met him.

To me, a computer is a tool. And my Windows PC is tool that allows me to do what I want to using the software I want to use.

I am sure a mac is the same thing for others. But right now, a mac cannot give me what I need out of computer because for instance the GPS issue. There are other things, and no hail apples from my brother is going to fix that. So a mac is currently not the right tool for the job, for me.

Same thing holds true for Linux. If all you do is email and browse the web, and you want a userfriendly interface with the most gorgeous eyecandy you can think of, run the latest Ubuntu.

If I need to chose between dual booting two systems to do all the things I need/want to do, or just use a single system to do everything, just give me the single system. I have messed around with computers for too long both personal and professional to care anymore. I just want something that does what I want it to do.

POB · Post by **POB** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:02 am

With the XP thing I was lucky to have a site licence that I was allowed to use. To be honest I very rarely use the Win partition, but there are some things that are only Win supported (like Sony Ericsson updating, and Garmin).

This isn't an issue that will be around for long, for I fear the Apple "home computer" market share is growing rapidly. In terms of working on a Mac, I got one when I was half way through my PhD (yawn) and my productivity went through the roof.

As it happens, I have a crappy old PC on my desk alongside the Mac. It runs Linux Fedora, and has replaced a lot of the PC requirements. I agree with what others said about it not being full-featured enough to be your only computer (and there's still some tweaking and fiddling in shells, not to everyone's taste) but it's great to be able to do previously ££ tasks in a creative commons / open source, legal environment.

For home type stuff (burning DVDs, editing / publishing video, web and document / graphic production) the Mac is so much better than a Win machine it's just no contest.

http://www.lewismiller.info/blog/2007/1 ... lness.html

snavetrauts · Post by **snavetrauts** » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:45 am

Ditto POB

Stuart