Sombre reminder

[Steve1200S]

I think each to their own too.....

But shorts and t-shirt on a motorway..... come on! While yes, you can do it and not brake any laws (and I wouldn't want any laws to that affect), I'd expect any decent copper to pull them over and give them some words of wisdom.

I bet the girl in the article won't ride without leathers again....

[bikesnbones]

But shorts and t-shirt on a motorway..... come on! While yes, you can do it and not brake any laws (and I wouldn't want any laws to that affect), I'd expect any decent copper to pull them over and give them some words of wisdom.....

Words of wisdom.

So if you see someone innocently enjoying a cigarette in a beer garden, would you see it as anyone's right to plonk themselves down next to this total stranger and lecture them about the irreparable and fatal damage they are doing to themselves ?
Of course you wouldn't.
I smoke.
It's a terrible filthy habit that could kill me but if a total stranger started on me about it, I'd tell them to f**k off.
I'm not stupid.
I know the risks and it's up to me and no one else.

[cornishflat]

Re. cyclists' gear: a few lads from work got back on Sunday from following some of Le Tour. They also had a crack at the Alpe D'Huez (2 of the daft buggers did it twice!) - relatively quiet as it's not on this year's route. One of them was trying to catch the faster climbers on the descent and binned it at around 40mph. Headbutted a steel fence (erected to stop cyclists diving into the valley) which split his helmet into 3 pieces, then slid and tumbled down the road. He too can vouch for the abrasion resistant qualities of Lycra . Lost a serious amount of bark. Amazingly no broken bones or internal damage. £1500 pushbike totalled too. His abrasions make you wince to look at them, and he's still walking like C3PO with rheumatoid arthritis. Oh, he highly recommends removal of gravel from abraded skin using a nail brush in hospital as an effective way to forget about your pounding headache...

Mike.

Alpe D,Huez was part of todays stage. They climbed it twice, with upward of 300,000 crazed fans to scream them up.

[pbikerharry]

I remember being blow off on the back of a bike (fs1e i think) with not a lot to cover me up but thats another story

Harry the bastard

[Merecat]

I remember being blow off on the back of a bike (fs1e i think) with not a lot to cover me up

If youre going to get blown of the back of a bike, minimum cover is best

[dave the german]

on the topic of a lecture from the boys in blue, one of Cumbria's finest pulled a Ford Ka(c) over late last night for driving in the middle lane. Empty motorway, the Kac had just passed me then the Polis passed me, flashed the Kac, Kac didn't move, he overtook it pulled into the inside lane and still the Kac didn't take the hint. Next thing I was overtaking both of them while Polis is pointing vigourously at the inside lane. Well done that cop!!

[bikesnbones]

on the topic of a lecture from the boys in blue, one of Cumbria's finest pulled a Ford Ka(c) over late last night for driving in the middle lane. Empty motorway, the Kac had just passed me then the Polis passed me, flashed the Kac, Kac didn't move, he overtook it pulled into the inside lane and still the Kac didn't take the hint. Next thing I was overtaking both of them while Polis is pointing vigourously at the inside lane. Well done that cop!!

Middle lane hogging is now an offence, punishable with a fine.
About bloody time.
http://www.channel4.com/news/100-fine-h ... e-motorway

[slparry]

It always was, but the police never bothered doing anything about it

[Boxermed69]

Alpe D,Huez was part of todays stage. They climbed it twice, with upward of 300,000 crazed fans to scream them up.

Oops . Either misinformed or misheard - that'll learn me - not keeping up with The Tour this year...

Mike.

[Boxermed69]

I remember being blow off on the back of a bike (fs1e i think) with not a lot to cover me up

If youre going to get blown of the back of a bike, minimum cover is best

[Steve1200S]

But shorts and t-shirt on a motorway..... come on! While yes, you can do it and not brake any laws (and I wouldn't want any laws to that affect), I'd expect any decent copper to pull them over and give them some words of wisdom.....

Words of wisdom.

So if you see someone innocently enjoying a cigarette in a beer garden, would you see it as anyone's right to plonk themselves down next to this total stranger and lecture them about the irreparable and fatal damage they are doing to themselves ?
Of course you wouldn't.
I smoke.
It's a terrible filthy habit that could kill me but if a total stranger started on me about it, I'd tell them to f**k off.
I'm not stupid.
I know the risks and it's up to me and no one else.

Depends on who it is. A teenager who's just passed his test (or just started smoking to fit in with his friends for that matter) and 'doesn't know any better' or hasn't thought it through. Hell yea, a talking to by anyone may change their attitude and make a difference. And not to be snooty or talk down to anyone, just to try and be helpful.

If people don't want to take the advice, fair enough, but I think It's a sad day when you can't try and help someone with friendly advice because being told to fuck off and mind your own business is the default response....

[bikesnbones]

I think It's a sad day when you can't try and help someone with friendly advice because being told to fuck off and mind your own business is the default response....

That's exactly what you'd get from me if you tried to tell me what I should be wearing on a bike.
God save us from the Nanny state, and all of it's advocates.

[slparry]

It becomes a sad society when we can't care for our fellows though?

[Blackal]

It becomes a sad society when we can't care for our fellows though?

Quite right!


Who here, can put themselves in the position of being the father of a teenage girl, who has the world ahead of her- but ends up with a permanent limp, skin grafts, possible breast removal from a spill from a bike while wearing no protection........... And can honestly say : "she shouldn't have to listen to some twat telling her about wearing appropriate clothing."

If you can, then you have failed as a father, in the most fundemental of responsibilities.

But, somehow I don't think your "principles of free choice" will stretch that far...........

You'll need to blame someone ( probably the rider/boyfriend - never yourself)

Who will your wife blame? Do you dare voice your "principles of free choice" to her?

You could conceivably end up with a daughter with a life which is (to her) not worth living, a marriage on the rocks, and God knows what else.........

But- at least you have some sort of "moral high ground".......


Al

(I've had a couple of beers )

[cornishflat]

It becomes a sad society when we can't care for our fellows though?

Quite right!


Who here, can put themselves in the position of being the father of a teenage girl, who has the world ahead of her- but ends up with a permanent limp, skin grafts, possible breast removal from a spill from a bike while wearing no protection........... And can honestly say : "she shouldn't have to listen to some twat telling her about wearing appropriate clothing."

If you can, then you have failed as a father, in the most fundemental of responsibilities.



But, somehow I don't think your "principles of free choice" will stretch that far...........

You'll need to blame someone ( probably the rider/boyfriend - never yourself)

Who will your wife blame? Do you dare voice your "principles of free choice" to her?

You could conceivably end up with a daughter with a life which is (to her) not worth living, a marriage on the rocks, and God knows what else.........

But- at least you have some sort of "moral high ground".......


Al

(I've had a couple of beers )

And you would feel so much better because they ignored your advice to dress accordingly.
Is that not taking the moral high ground