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Speed camera's in France

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:34 pm
by f90x
Does anyone know the fine situation for getting Gatso'd in France and whether the fine gets sent to the UK? I set one off the other week. I know how fast I was going but not the speed limit. Either 90 or 110kmh. It was at the end of a 12 hour day, 8 of which were in the pouring rain.

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 2:49 pm
by Boxered
No, you will be OK Steve, there is a new directive as of May this year that covers all member states of the EU, but the UK and Ireland have an opt out until 2017.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars ... fines.html

I take it that you ran a rear facing gatso then? most in France are front facing, at least they were last time I visited.

Steve

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:41 pm
by David_S_Walker
Hello,

However that won't stop some UK firms who are seeing this as a money making oppportuntiy and buying the data from our EU partners.

They then send you a very official looking demand for money....promising dire consequences if you don't pay.

...You should ignore it and if they continue and you want reassurance then just go to www.pepipoo.co.uk and post there for advice.

I stand to be corrected but I think the only fines for speeding that can be levied in the EU is by officers at the roadside

Best regards,

David

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:23 pm
by Blackal
Good advice, thanks :thumbleft:

One thing about the French system - is that there appears to be less complaints from Brits being caught speeding - there.

Not like in UK.


"Vive la France!"

Al

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:29 pm
by oyster
I saw several ground mounted grey box speed cameras, fixed at 45 degrees to catch rear number plates during my trip last month. I suspect it is only a matter of time before all speeders will be sent letters.

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:35 pm
by gus
Hi
To be honest you have be pretty stupid to get caught out by a fixed camera in france. They have huge signs stating exactly where they are well in advance. And they are there exactly where they say.!!!
Gus

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:18 am
by tanneman
What gus said. Usual targets are on the motorway. Stick to the lesser routes when on the bike and keep a relaxed pace. Much better to tour France that way.

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 11:59 am
by f90x
gus wrote:Hi
To be honest you have be pretty stupid to get caught out by a fixed camera in france. They have huge signs stating exactly where they are well in advance. And they are there exactly where they say.!!!
Gus
Thanks for calling me stupid Gus. Much appreciated. I had been on the road for 12 hours, it was getting dark coming down a mountain road towards Grenoble. I was near my destination and just wanted to get there. I was in giddy up mode I guess having been held up by the weather all day. I have 'never' clipped a camera before In France. I know how it works and I usually see the signs. Like I say, it was the end of a long and very wet day. 8 hours through non stop torrential rain during a 12 hour day does that to a person and if it hadn't been for the rain I had planned to stick to non motorway for the whole trip, but thanks again for the self righteous comment.

Thanks to the preceding posters for the info on the speed cameras

Steve

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:10 pm
by dave the german
As Boxered said, there are plans in motion for EU states to be able to get the money out of us once we're back home. Does Europe have a points system like us and does that mean the smudges will count in UK?

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:22 pm
by milleplod
f90x wrote:
gus wrote:Hi
To be honest you have be pretty stupid to get caught out by a fixed camera in france. They have huge signs stating exactly where they are well in advance. And they are there exactly where they say.!!!
Gus
Thanks for calling me stupid Gus. Much appreciated. I had been on the road for 12 hours, it was getting dark coming down a mountain road towards Grenoble. I was near my destination and just wanted to get there. I was in giddy up mode I guess having been held up by the weather all day. I have 'never' clipped a camera before In France. I know how it works and I usually see the signs. Like I say, it was the end of a long and very wet day. 8 hours through non stop torrential rain during a 12 hour day does that to a person and if it hadn't been for the rain I had planned to stick to non motorway for the whole trip, but thanks again for the self righteous comment.

Thanks to the preceding posters for the info on the speed cameras

Steve
You quite possibly didn't miss the signs - an awful lot of them have been removed in a bid to 'improve road safety'. Some are still in place though, in a typical fudge by the French when various ministers were spouting conflicting info about what was going to happen - initially, 'they're all going'....followed by 'there will be local consultation before any are removed'....then back to....well, you get the drift! Suffice to say, a lot have gone.

Pete

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 12:26 pm
by milleplod
dave the german wrote:As Boxered said, there are plans in motion for EU states to be able to get the money out of us once we're back home. Does Europe have a points system like us and does that mean the smudges will count in UK?
The French system deducts points, starting at 12. But they classify speeding offences at different levels, which get different points. At present it would be impossible to cross-connect the points, although the imposition of fines would, I'd have thought, be fairly simple to put in place.

Pete

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 11:57 pm
by er-minio
f90x: same thing happened to me and Metropolis2k on our way back to London more than one year ago.
The last stretch to Dijon, it was late, we were tired and we both set off a speed camera. Limit was 110km/h in that bit, I thought it was 130, and we were both doing around 120.
Clearly saw the rear facing speed cameras flash twice as both bikes passed.

To this day, received nothing.
You quite possibly didn't miss the signs - an awful lot of them have been removed in a bid to 'improve road safety'.
Are we sure? I ride in Europe quite a lot.
Just came back from Italy on the bike yesterday and did my fair bit of riding in France. Always saw the signs before every speed camera. And that as always been the case over the years.

Anyway... I might have been distracted on a small stretch of road in Switzerland.
I'll be keeping my eye on incoming mail :shock:

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:06 am
by milleplod
er-minio wrote:
You quite possibly didn't miss the signs - an awful lot of them have been removed in a bid to 'improve road safety'.
Are we sure? I ride in Europe quite a lot.
Just came back from Italy on the bike yesterday and did my fair bit of riding in France. Always saw the signs before every speed camera. And that as always been the case over the years.

Anyway... I might have been distracted on a small stretch of road in Switzerland.
I'll be keeping my eye on incoming mail :shock:
No, I'm not! Down in the Correze, some signs definitely disappeared shortly after the announcement was made (2011/12?), most of them went back up again after about 6 months, but I'm sure some are still missing. Perhaps the majority have now been reinstated.

When I'm over there, I lean towards the assumption that they're no longer a given!

Pete

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 8:34 pm
by mh374
f90x wrote:
gus wrote:Hi
To be honest you have be pretty stupid to get caught out by a fixed camera in france. They have huge signs stating exactly where they are well in advance. And they are there exactly where they say.!!!
Gus
Thanks for calling me stupid Gus. Much appreciated. I had been on the road for 12 hours, it was getting dark coming down a mountain road towards Grenoble. I was near my destination and just wanted to get there. I was in giddy up mode I guess having been held up by the weather all day. I have 'never' clipped a camera before In France. I know how it works and I usually see the signs. Like I say, it was the end of a long and very wet day. 8 hours through non stop torrential rain during a 12 hour day does that to a person and if it hadn't been for the rain I had planned to stick to non motorway for the whole trip, but thanks again for the self righteous comment.

Thanks to the preceding posters for the info on the speed cameras

Steve
You are rather precious, aren't you. LOL :D

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:13 pm
by f90x
mh374 wrote:
f90x wrote:
gus wrote:Hi
To be honest you have be pretty stupid to get caught out by a fixed camera in france. They have huge signs stating exactly where they are well in advance. And they are there exactly where they say.!!!
Gus
Thanks for calling me stupid Gus. Much appreciated. I had been on the road for 12 hours, it was getting dark coming down a mountain road towards Grenoble. I was near my destination and just wanted to get there. I was in giddy up mode I guess having been held up by the weather all day. I have 'never' clipped a camera before In France. I know how it works and I usually see the signs. Like I say, it was the end of a long and very wet day. 8 hours through non stop torrential rain during a 12 hour day does that to a person and if it hadn't been for the rain I had planned to stick to non motorway for the whole trip, but thanks again for the self righteous comment.

Thanks to the preceding posters for the info on the speed cameras

Steve
You are rather precious, aren't you. LOL :D
I knew you wouldn't be able to help yourself. I've been waiting for you to make a derogatory comment since I made the original post. You are nothing if not predictable. You have no 'banter' with me or anyone else on here yet you feel that you can make personal comments at people without actually establishing a rapport beforehand. This is not how well adjusted people behave.

At the risk of turning his thread into something nasty I would like you to answer these questions. Try and 'just' answer the questions without turning it into a diatribe about me just because you appear to be a hateful individual.

Why is it that you find it necessary to be so negative?
Why do you have to comment on peoples personalities and deride people on this site?
What is it that drives you to belong to this site and contribute nothing but bile?
Do you actually ride a motorcycle?
If so, Is it even a BMW?
Do you think that from what you have submitted to this site that 'anyone' here has anything other than disrespect for you?
If you are happy with that do you not think that you need some help? (that's not a piss take question BTW)

See if you can do it. I don't believe for a minute that you are stupid. To the contrary, I think that you are an intelligent person but it is beyond me why anyone would want to go through life being as negative, supercilious, and hateful as you are.

These are genuine questions that I would like an answer to. I would respectfully request the other members of the site not to make any negative comments towards you as I don't want this to turn into the debacle that the last thread that involved you did.

Over to you. Just the answers please.