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'04 R1100S BoxerCup - recommended battery please!

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:13 pm
by masha
Gel or Lead acid - OEM or aftermarket? what is best currently and where to order from this week.

My 18 month old Varta cell failed on a ride Saturday and let me down (hoping that's all it is - as everything else checks out and it starts on a jump pack). - optimate tries to desulphate it for 6 hours and then fails to red-light

I had the OEM BMW cell before that (still in the shed) I topped up the levels and tried to recover that but no joy - need a new one.

Does anyone know the model of the Hein Gericke Gel batteries that fit the R1100S tray best? I guess I could mail order from there?

I don't think I'll buy Varta again - as I'd have expected an unbranded cell to last longer than 18 months - and its be regularly disconnected and Optimated over the winter.

Any advice, recommendations, suppliers appreciated.

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:23 pm
by slparry

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:20 pm
by masha
Thanks MotoBatt does look good. I have heard Odyysey are the business too. - I will check for either of those locally perhaps.

Anyone know the model no. of either that best fits the R1100S, and any stockists in the South East?

A quick google found this one:
http://www.mad4bikes.co.uk/motobatt-mb5 ... y-600.html

Has anyone fitted one to an R1100S? - will this drop straight in?

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:28 pm
by slparry
I have odysseys in my KGT and my BCR, and a MotoBatt in my F650, the test I sent the link of details the guy stress testing them all. Of all the tests the motobatts ability to perform multiple starts of a 6.5 litre truck engine was I guess one of the more impressive. Heck if it'll start that then my 650 single's a doddle :) ... and it was half the price of the odyssey

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:00 pm
by conkerman
I have always used Yuasa on my other bikes.

Relatively inexpensive and do the job.

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:05 pm
by masha
That was an impressive test admitedly. Do you know which model of Motobatt you fitted to your R1100 BCR?

I have had Honda's that have run Yuasa's for literally over a decade well looked after out of season, so was pretty disappointed at the Varta's life (although I'm still hoping my BCR hasn't developed a rectifier or alternator fault, but when its running it returns a good steady 14v, so I'm hoping its fine, and it fires up fine off the power-jack on the side of the starter housing with a booster pack).

regards

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:32 pm
by slparry
I have an odyssey on my BCR, I believe there's two fitments depending on whether you have abs/heated grips or not, mine doesn't but I'm not sure which I have as the previous owner fitted it ... and being honest I got it in 2008 I think so it's done a sterling job for the last 5 years at least.

The motobatt came with a 3/4 " removable plate on the bottom, and has duplicated terminal screws so can fit in a variety of bikes

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from= ... tt&_sop=15


Motorworks list the Odyssey PC680 for R1100S's (but "not for R1100S with small battery")

I guess a quick call to them would be best ?

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:56 am
by Dog Tyred
You could always use the 'Search' function! Like soooooo many things its been done to death on many occassions!!

I just used and it took me less that minute to find out you need an Odyssey PC680 (assuming you have heated grips on your BCR).

If no HG then a PC 545 (smaller) battery is the one you need.

Of course I could be lying so check it out for yourself first :wink:

DT

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 8:29 am
by Hayden
Try a MotoBatt, even Triumph Triples cant eat these! :wink:

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:08 am
by Dai wiskers
Have an odyssey on the R11 a yuasa on the harley but it struggles even though it was brand new just before i bought the bike ok the bike has got a big bore fitted and now comes in at 1780 cc i will be fitting a mobatt as soon as the yuassa fails don't think that this will be long Infact i will probably be changing it next pension day

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:15 am
by masha
I've tried a couple of MotoBatt suppliers and both have said they don't stock anything for the R1100S, so I'm looking for a good lead on a mail order supplier of these today if anyone has any pointers either to the model of MotoBatt I need (for a non ABS '04 BoxerCupRep). or a mail order stockist that would know what I need.

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:25 am
by Hayden
use this site to get your part number/cross reference, then go shop on Ebay or whatever by part number rather than bike make.
http://motobatt.com/

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:29 am
by masha
Thanks - I'll measure-up and compare like with like and work out which MotoBatt I need from that list then

regards

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:29 am
by Dai wiskers
Try busters of Swansea measure your battery give them the dimensions and hopefully they will have a look for you or will have a chart with the measurements on it

If they can't or won't help try M&P Swansea

The reason a battery won't be listed is your looking for a relatively rare old bike

Hope this helps Dai

Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:16 pm
by masha
Thanks for that - I went back to Walmer Batteries in Kent where I got my Varta 2 years ago, along with two others for my Honda twins at the time, all for £45ea. The same cell now is £75 - but I wasn't buying another Varta after it let me down so suddenly last weekend after 23 months careful use. They confirmed warrantee is only 1 year on most bike batteries, and I went for a 22aH Lucas sealed lead acid cell (exactly the right dimensions they recommended to get me back on the road this weekend (technically a golf buggy cell, but a good reputation and he;s sold at least 10 to BMW owners in the last couple of years and not had one back). I will look into the MotoBat units, as I need to order some other cells for my scooter and Ducati in the next few weeks and I'll try to get a batch of them, and continue to look into the correct model for the R1100S then. The Duc. is a pain as its the MH900E - it has twin-batteries: so two to replace on that. Its going to be an expensive summer of batteries, and I've just bought one for the Caterham too (they even make a tiny LIthium cell for these now, but its £280! so I stuck with the £60 standard Banner unit now they've up'ed the Ampage a bit on the new ones for improved cranking)