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A friend of mine who's had to give up riding recently sold his Honda CB1300 to a dealer.
He got rock bottom money for an immaculate bike loaded with extra's.
He told me that when he bought the extra's up as a bargaining point, the dealer told him that all these things make no difference to it's value.
To prove a point to myself, I went in there and expressed an interest.
They've got it up at well above it's book retail value, and when I asked them why, they said because of all the aftermarket extra's.

So the moral of the story is, if you must sell to a shark, erm I mean dealer, take everything extra that you've bought off the bike and put them on ebay.

And yet - dealers are closing...........


Do you think they are "benevolant societies"? They are businesses, who require a decent return on investment - like other businesses.

If you are employed by a company- do you expect them to charge shag-all? If so - then you will suffer in the long run, from low wages or loss of job.

Al

Blackal wrote: Do you think they are "benevolant societies"? They are businesses, who require a decent return on investment - like other businesses.

If you are employed by a company- do you expect them to charge shag-all? If so - then you will suffer in the long run, from low wages or loss of job.

Al

So it's OK for them to lie and say extra's make no difference to a bikes value, but when it comes to them selling they can charge over the odds, and claim a bike is worth more because of those same extra's.
I expect any company to make a profit, but I don't expect them to lie in order to do it.

You never get the value for extras on any bike whether selling privately or to the trade.
Its always worth returning the bike to standard and selling the parts separately.

eyore wrote:You never get the value for extras on any bike whether selling privately or to the trade.
Its always worth returning the bike to standard and selling the parts separately.

That's not in question.
What is in question is the ethics of a trader telling someone that the hundreds of pounds they spent on extra's makes no difference to what it's worth, and then telling a customer who may be interested in buying it from them, that it's priced way higher than it's book value because of those same extra's.

Well the dealer was not exactly playing fair, and he obviously took advantage of your mate, but put your foot in a river full of pirahanas and expect the odd bite or worse.
Selling to the trade is an act of desperation I am afraid, did he try and sell privately ?

eyore wrote:Well the dealer was not exactly playing fair, and he obviously took advantage of your mate, but put your foot in a river full of pirahanas and expect the odd bite or worse.
Selling to the trade is an act of desperation I am afraid, did he try and sell privately ?

Of course he should have sold privately, but he's not very streetwise and a bit gullible.
It is easier I guess to sell to a dealer.
No problem but I cannot abide liars.
Many years ago I took a job as a double glazing salesman and lasted less than a week, for that very reason.
I had to accompany a more experienced salesman and watch him work.
It was the most depressing thing I have ever undertaken.

They may be trying it on, but they were right... And I bet the eventual buyer will chip them down on the basis that the extras are worthless.

All commission based sales roles will encourage the sales staff to bend the truth. The reason I left the Dixons Group was their shocking attitude towards selling warranties.

bikesnbones wrote:That's not in question. What is in question is the ethics of a trader telling someone that the hundreds of pounds they spent on extra's makes no difference to what it's worth, and then telling a customer who may be interested in buying it from them, that it's priced way higher than it's book value because of those same extra's.

The term ethics and dealer should not be used in the same sentence. The Salesman will have targets to meet and if they liberally "bend the truth" to get there they will have no qualms about doing that.

Not right but thats the nature of sales.

I,d have to say in my experience the dealers that have stood the test of time have had a touch of quality about them. Trade in values being fair,with a little friendly haggling, decent test rides and so on to create repeat customers.

cornishflat wrote:I,d have to say in my experience the dealers that have stood the test of time have had a touch of quality about them. Trade in values being fair,with a little friendly haggling, decent test rides and so on to create repeat customers.

Very true.