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Code Plugs and Fuel Maps.

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:02 am
by HerrFlick
Hi All,

Finally started digging into this stuff to see the effects of different maps on my bike.

Lots around on the net, so it would seem, but a closer look shows very little reference to to the 'S'.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but it seems that one can apply any of these maps to any R1100/1150 machine, but only some apply to a machine for its intended purpose eg GS v RT v R v S etc.


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My S, Oz delivered, had an ash-white (gray) CCP, linking pins 30-87-86, although I suspect the PO may have had a hand in this.

The table says that it is for < 91RON fuel situations (now I know we're at the antipodes, and things have improved a lot since the 240 came through a few years back, but <91 octane ... puleease ;-))

Now: the table specifies this for an 1150GS, but does the same apply to the 850? See one point of confusion?

So - I wired out the CCP contacts for external access to the pins, allowing an easy change of maps (when I finally get to the dyno shop - the Black Dog permitting).


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Then I got HerrFlick dressed went riding to gain first impressions.

First map: 30-86 (my faulty memory thinking it was for the RED ccp).

Cold start: much stumbling and hesitating but wouldn't light. Hmmm. 1st start in 2 months - OK - back to original setting.

Fired first kick and idled smoothly. Off I went then stopped later once engine was hot and changed to 30-86.

Still hard to start, but once running above 2k rpm all was good. Once the revs passed 5k it pulled noticeably harder and would quickly hit the rev limiter if I wasn't watching. Harsh vibration had returned.

If revs fell below 2k there was no throttle response: just a hollow gurgle, and lacked the electric motor pull up to 4k. Not good on hairpin infested mountain roads.

But great for a bit of hedge-hopping (low-flying) from 4k upwards in 6th.

Then went to Brown, Red and None..

Each felt milder at higher rpms and each slightly different up to mid-range, but it will take a dyno run to pinpoint the differences.

Part way back down the mountain I changed back to Gray (original) as this gave the smoothest, most confidence-inspiring, four-cyl like compression braking into steep downhill hairpin turns with least tendency for rear wheel hop.

At the bottom of the descent: back to 30-86. Whoo hoooo. But it guzzled juice at an amazing rate: only 120mi (206km) before the low fuel warning. Welllll ... there was a lot of time spent above 5k in 6th. #)

Had only to turn off ignition to change maps, despite i'net claims otherwise.

Anyway - should anyone have more up-to-date information or insights re this topic I'd very much appreciate hearing from them.


Cheers

John C. aka HerrFlickHi All.


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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:17 am
by slparry
the plugs are a major con :) .... if you open them up they just connect two pins so a pair of blade connectors and a piece of wire can do the same job.

Somewhere, maybe on pelican or ukgs there's a list of the pins that need to be connected

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:20 am
by Phil Thomas
My 1999 S doesn't have the coding plug. However, on my previous R1150RS (1993) I was able to play around with the coding settings...can't actually remember which setting I ended up with, but it did make an enormous difference.

With the '99S I've never felt the need to fiddle...it runs brilliantly throughout the range.

Regards to all,

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:37 am
by HerrFlick
slparry wrote:the plugs are a major con :) .... if you open them up they just connect two pins so a pair of blade connectors and a piece of wire can do the same job.

Somewhere, maybe on pelican or ukgs there's a list of the pins that need to be connected

Arrrh cripes Parry!!! ;-)

Surely you read my post?

I mean I've slaved away on my pc in airconditioned comfort, foregoing the joys of our autumn riding conditions (23C and clear blue skies), just so I could bring enlightenment and encouragement to my antipodean 1100S Riding Brothers in their STRUGGLE to see their way forward through gray skies and black ice to some future time when the sun will again shine and they'll once more have the freedom of the M25 ... oh well - no skin off my nose should you spurn my well-intended contribution ...


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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:56 am
by slparry
HerrFlick wrote:
slparry wrote:the plugs are a major con :) .... if you open them up they just connect two pins so a pair of blade connectors and a piece of wire can do the same job.

Somewhere, maybe on pelican or ukgs there's a list of the pins that need to be connected

Arrrh cripes Parry!!! ;-)

Surely you read my post?

I mean I've slaved away on my pc in airconditioned comfort, foregoing the joys of our autumn riding conditions (23C and clear blue skies), just so I could bring enlightenment and encouragement to my antipodean 1100S Riding Brothers in their STRUGGLE to see their way forward through gray skies and black ice to some future time when the sun will again shine and they'll once more have the freedom of the M25 ... oh well - no skin off my nose should you spurn my well-intended contribution ...


:)


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Oops ... that'll teach me for scanning a post :)

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:37 am
by HerrFlick
slparry wrote:
HerrFlick wrote:
slparry wrote:the plugs are a major con :) .... if you open them up they just connect two pins so a pair of blade connectors and a piece of wire can do the same job.

Somewhere, maybe on pelican or ukgs there's a list of the pins that need to be connected

Arrrh cripes Parry!!! ;-)

Surely you read my post?

I mean I've slaved away on my pc in airconditioned comfort, foregoing the joys of our autumn riding conditions (23C and clear blue skies), just so I could bring enlightenment and encouragement to my antipodean 1100S Riding Brothers in their STRUGGLE to see their way forward through gray skies and black ice to some future time when the sun will again shine and they'll once more have the freedom of the M25 ... oh well - no skin off my nose should you spurn my well-intended contribution ...


:)


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Oops ... that'll teach me for scanning a post :)

AND SO IT SHOULD !!!!!!

At least for this non-comic reply I haven't snorted half a bowl of cornflakes and milk all over my keyboard ... :)))


Cheers mate.

John C.

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:09 am
by Dai wiskers
AAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

120 miles to low fuel light is pretty good

Try disconnecting the lambda sensor and removing the CCP

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:37 pm
by Bikerhoss
Dai wiskers wrote:AAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

120 miles to low fuel light is pretty good

Try disconnecting the lambda sensor and removing the CCP
+1
I'm usually nearer 110miles to warning light :oops:

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:49 pm
by slparry
I once got it to 150 miles to the light while being very good, trouble is I'm rarely that good :)

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:00 pm
by bikemad99
Sunday ,on the way home,the STs petrol light came on at 227miles,the trip then changes to miles to empty,and said 42 left.That is plenty between fill ups as Gwen only does 100miles between cups of tea,and my bladder requires emptying sooner than that. :oops:

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:20 pm
by slparry
My KGT is like that Reg, I've once managed to squeeze 300 miles from a tank but was getting very twitchy at that point :)

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:21 pm
by HerrFlick
bikemad99 wrote:Sunday ,on the way home,the STs petrol light came on at 227miles,the trip then changes to miles to empty,and said 42 left.That is plenty between fill ups as Gwen only does 100miles between cups of tea,and my bladder requires emptying sooner than that. :oops:

Too much informaion ....

Unless you've been in the saddle for many hours in pouring rain ...

Flamin' kinky wierdo's


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Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 4:57 pm
by Neil178
:lol:

Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:15 pm
by simon
HerrFlick wrote:I mean I've slaved away on my pc in airconditioned comfort, foregoing the joys of our autumn riding conditions (23C and clear blue skies), just so I could bring enlightenment and encouragement to my antipodean 1100S Riding Brothers in their STRUGGLE to see their way forward through gray skies and black ice to some future time when the sun will again shine and they'll once more have the freedom of the M25
... yup.


For further enlightenment...
click the search button above..
search for ccp..
Choose "CCP Confusion"..
Scroll down to the last post and click the R1100Sccp link.

..ta dah! 8)

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:37 pm
by HerrFlick
Here's the first quality explanation I've seen re Coding Plugs:


http://www.bmwmoa.org/forum/showthread. ... 50-Decoded



Cheers.

John C.