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CRASHBARS/ENGINE PROTECTORS?

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:52 pm
by el-nicko
For my next project I'm thinking of making my own or modifying a set made for some other bike. It looks as tho mounting points are going to be a problem on the 11s. Does anybody make a set 'off the shelf'? Anyone got any input?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:02 pm
by nab 301
These are occasionally availible , not sure if you could cast a set yourself..
http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread ... 892&page=9

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:38 pm
by el-nicko
nab 301 wrote:These are occasionally availible , not sure if you could cast a set yourself..
http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread ... 892&page=9
Cheers mate, that makes interesting reading. Mind you, it looks like Steptoe is'nt making 'em at the mo. I am actualy looking more for a crashbar rather than guards cos I want something to mount a couple 'spots' on. It's a real problem finding mounting points on the 11s plus the fact that I'd like to keep my OE belly-pan. I've even considered making a couple of aluminium clamps that fit round the 'headers' close to the head (well, why not?) with a horizontal bore that a bar passes thru joining them both together. That might even double-up as a heatsink and stop the pipes turning brown. If I can get a set of those 'D' shaped crash bars you used to see on old British bikes, wide enough to go round the cylinder heads they would be ideal especialy if I could find somewhere in the gearbox area for extra bracing. And if they were lying almost horizontal (so-to-speak) they would kill two birds with one stone; head protectors and spot mounts.

Does anyone make crash protectors ???????

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:01 pm
by GRAgusta
In my experience the crash protectors provided by BMW work very well.

The cylender heads are incredably robust.

And if you don't like the look of a scratched one - I don't - a replacement from motoworks doesn't break the bank.

So why spoil the beautiful lines of the bike (sic) with something not meant to be there. :shock:

Re: Does anyone make crash protectors ???????

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:11 pm
by el-nicko
GRAgusta wrote:In my experience the crash protectors provided by BMW work very well.

The cylender heads are incredably robust.

And if you don't like the look of a scratched one - I don't - a replacement from motoworks doesn't break the bank.

So why spoil the beautiful lines of the bike (sic) with something not meant to be there. :shock:
Er, spot mounts?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:31 pm
by GRAgusta
Er, spot mounts?
IMO correct on a GS, but not at home on the S....

But if that is the objective, I can't comment further and will leave the room.... :?

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:57 pm
by Bikerhoss
GRAgusta wrote:IMO correct on a GS, but not at home on the S....
Got to agree with that I'm afraid, Why not try something like these with the plastic BM headguards :?:

https://sacheto.com/404807/?utm_source= ... ct&lang=uk

I've seen two BMs go down on their cylinder heads, and they do crash very well, If you take a big enough knock to do more serious damage, I don't think crash bars would help anyhow, JMHO :)

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:01 pm
by el-nicko
GRAgusta wrote:
Er, spot mounts?
IMO correct on a GS, but not at home on the S....

But if that is the objective, I can't comment further and will leave the room.... :?
Well the 11s is billed as a sports tourer. Thing is, I am often out late at night and tho I've got HID bulbs in both, I find, leaned over in a bend that my main beam, especialy on right-handers, is in the hedge but the road is curving away into the dark. I want to fit spots (wired via a relay into my h/light circuit) angled up and away from the bikes centre-line to fill the area (when leaned over) I'm actualy heading for. It's worth noting that BMW have addressed this problem on some their more recent high-end bikes with a headlight that actualy does this.

Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:10 pm
by GRAgusta
ok, I understand where you are coming from.... but in Aberdeen we have day light till 10pm when it is not icy, and ice - bike in the garage - when it is dark during the commute.

So we may live on the same island, but it is a different world .... :D

Our cars have headlights that follow the steering, for the dark times.

Re: Does anyone make crash protectors ???????

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 1:55 pm
by ianbcr
[quote="el-nicko"][quote="GRAgusta"]In my experience the crash protectors provided by BMW work very well.

The cylender heads are incredably robust.

And if you don't like the look of a scratched one - I don't - a replacement from motoworks doesn't break the bank.

So why spoil the beautiful lines of the bike (sic) with something not meant to be there. :shock:[/quote]
Er, spot mounts?[/quote]

el-nicko,have you thought about a zyklopes spot that fits on the fork brace and turns with the direction of the wheel. :?:

http://www.wunderlich-bmw.com/shopart/8 ... 1100-S.htm

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 3:06 pm
by el-nicko
Cheers Ian and Bikerhoss. Both sugestions worth looking at. Never come across either of those before. That's one of the great things about this site; so much help and knowledge to draw upon. :) :) :)


(EDIT) Found these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150899026061? ... 1438.l2661 on ebay. Nice price. Wonder if they'll take an HID bulb.

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:35 pm
by ianbcr
they should do nick as the base of a hid lamp is the same as a halogen so fits into the slots of the light,but you will have the ballasts exposed if you fit them on crash bars as the kit aint very long. :cry:

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:12 pm
by nab 301
el-nicko wrote: (EDIT) Found these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150899026061? ... 1438.l2661 on ebay. Nice price. Wonder if they'll take an HID bulb.
They're fog lamps so the beam pattern may not be what you want.

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:18 pm
by el-nicko
ianbcr wrote:they should do nick.........but you will have the ballasts exposed if you fit them on crash bars as the kit aint very long. :cry:
:roll: Yes, i recon you're right mate. I've got HIDs already and the cableing ain't very long. Blimey, nothing's ever straight- forward is it :!:

Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:22 pm
by el-nicko
nab 301 wrote:
el-nicko wrote: (EDIT) Found these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150899026061? ... 1438.l2661 on ebay. Nice price. Wonder if they'll take an HID bulb.
They're fog lamps so the beam pattern may not be what you want.
Right nigel. I wonder what 'projector' means :?
Or, maybe I should go for a set of these?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120871297377? ... 1438.l2649 :shock: :shock: :shock: