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Corvus wrote:Surely the two things are intrinsically linked? In asking if protective clothing should be made mandatory, you'd automatically have to examine the dangers of not. No?.

I think you should credit the average rider with a bit more common sense,
I think everyone here is aware of the dangers of not wearing protective clothing,
Many of us I suspect (including me), have suffered the consequences of not using it so in answer to your question,
No,
We know the dangers because we are all experienced riders.
As to the definition of protective clothing, do we really need that.
I mean really ?
Oh OK then,
Leather or textile jacket, CE approved with armour, and similar trousers.
Sturdy leather or textile gloves, and boots with armour in the vulnerable shin area,
But you didn't really need me to tell you that did you ????????
Anyway, my question again.
Should the above be made mandatory, like helmets.

Quite happy keeping it to lids only.

The question is valid.

I would imagine most of our biking kit is not legally classed as protective clothing. Not much of it is. Its quite an important distinction.

conkerman wrote: I would imagine most of our biking kit is not legally classed as protective clothing. Not much of it is. Its quite an important distinction.

Ok then.
Some people are struggling with this question, so I'll rephrase it.
Should protective clothing (made to a tested and approved standard, like helmets), be made mandatory.

Related but a bit off topic (being bicycles, which I also ride a lot - and for which was given my first crash helmet on my 62nd birthday)

http://jalopnik.com/swedes-develop-invi ... socialflow

no 'cos the slippery slope from there is to ban bikes. I'd like to see less restriction and as others have said would like the freedom on nice sunny days to bimble along without a lid, just as I can legally do on a pushbike, and I've seen cyclists doing 50 to 60 mph down the horseshoe pass on skinny tyres and crap brakes.

slparry wrote:no 'cos the slippery slope from there is to ban bikes. I'd like to see less restriction and as others have said would like the freedom on nice sunny days to bimble along without a lid, just as I can legally do on a pushbike, and I've seen cyclists doing 50 to 60 mph down the horseshoe pass on skinny tyres and crap brakes.

Yep me too

People who pontificate about protective clothing have obviously never ridden in France or Spain in midsummer! The French police ride in short sleeved shirts...so being comfortable is the best contribution to road safety.

Anyway freedom of choice...an old fashioned concept.

Regards to all,

Phil Thomas wrote:Anyway freedom of choice...an old fashioned concept.

Agreed, but should that feedom of choice be extended to not wearing helmets ?

I actually agree with mandatory helmet law. The head is such a delicate bit of the body it needs protection.

I also think bicycle helmets should be mandatory also.

Or maybe derestrict it all and let darwin sort it out?

Helmet yes. Protective clothing no but common sense makes most riders to dress appropriately.

You would have be be stupid to not realise the risks of wearing shorts, tee shirt and flipflops (or trainers). Amazes me how many scooter riders I see without gloves!!

As Forest would say 'Stupid is as stupid does'!

DT

Dog Tyred wrote:You would have be be stupid to not realise the risks of wearing shorts, tee shirt and flipflops (or trainers). Amazes me how many scooter riders I see without gloves!!

You mean like this fool

Yes, if he was riding at 30 mph on a busy trafficked road and had slightly less talent, like most of the youngsters that ride scooters.

Bimbling around a MotoGP paddock at 10mph with no cars, trucks, etc is a slightly different scenario...but you knew that already

DT

Dog Tyred wrote:Yes, if he was riding at 30 mph on a busy trafficked road and had slightly less talent, like most of the youngsters that ride scooters.

Bimbling around a MotoGP paddock at 10mph with no cars, trucks, etc is a slightly different scenario...but you knew that already

DT

Bimbling around at 10mph



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5xgM6kRJI4

bikesnbones wrote:

Dog Tyred wrote:Yes, if he was riding at 30 mph on a busy trafficked road and had slightly less talent, like most of the youngsters that ride scooters.

Bimbling around a MotoGP paddock at 10mph with no cars, trucks, etc is a slightly different scenario...but you knew that already

DT

Bimbling around at 10mph



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5xgM6kRJI4

Could be a stunt double?

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