Battery discharging after a few days, normal or what?

conkerman · Post by **conkerman** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:10 am

No fuses.

What a Swizz..

No user servicable parts inside is one step closer.

Which bikes have CANBUS so I can avoid them?

Dai wiskers · Post by **Dai wiskers** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:22 am

What make of battery did you fit i have a brand new yuasa on the harley and that won't start the bike if left for a week
Mobatt probably going on next pension day
Odyssey on the R11 no problems even over winter
Remember the battery has to turn over a 1200 twin that's like turning over a car engine look at the battery in a car then you'll realise that any small battery will struggle
In the days of the R80s a lot of people used to fit Hilman imp batteries they would just be made to fit with a little work today we don't have that option
Hope this helps Dai

McBoxer · Post by **McBoxer** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:29 am

McBoxer wrote:Can you do a current drain test? Turn everything off as if you were parking up, disconnect the negative lead from the battery terminal and put an ammeter between the terminal and the lead, and see how much current is being drawn.
On cars this should be less than 0.03 amps - not sure about bikes, but I would expect the same or lower. Any higher than this and something on the bike is drawing current at standstill, and potentially draining the battery. You can then disconnect things / pull fuses and watch the reading to narrow down the cuplrit.
If the drain is less than this then it points to the battery.

OK - I missed that this was a 12S with canbus, so doing this might be off the table due to the no fuse issue, and I'm slightly out of my depth now, as I came off the tools before this new electronic trickery became prevelant! (CANBUS = VODOO)

Perhaps the basic principle still applies though;
High current drain = problem on bike
Low current drain = problem with battery
Hopefully a CANBUS witch doctor will chime in and tell me if I'm talking out of my @rse......

Alastair (ex motor mechanic - before the cars became cleverer than me!)

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:07 pm

Could also mean the CANBUS fluid needs changing

eyore · Post by **eyore** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:16 pm

slparry wrote:Could also mean the CANBUS fluid needs changing

Question is ,do I need to go to main dealer or can I do this myself

I have a can of Bus here , but its been opened for a few months, wonder if its ok to use?

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:27 pm

eyore wrote:
slparry wrote:Could also mean the CANBUS fluid needs changing
Question is ,do I need to go to main dealer or can I do this myself
I have a can of Bus here , but its been opened for a few months, wonder if its ok to use?

well .. if you have the correct pump to vacuum fill it you should be ok

eyore · Post by **eyore** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 4:45 pm

I have a Dyson full of dog hairs and fluff, suppose that could be cleaned out and used. Strange that Haynes don't mention anything about this

Nookiebear · Post by **Nookiebear** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 6:37 pm

I think you need to perform the standard chicken sacrifice ritual and apply copious amounts of Vaseline to your nether regions. That should solve the problem, or at least some form of self satisfaction.

eyore · Post by **eyore** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:09 pm

Nookiebear wrote:I think you need to perform the standard chicken sacrifice ritual and apply copious amounts of Vaseline to your nether regions. That should solve the problem, or at least some form of self satisfaction.

Silly boy, I have obviously tried that already without success, but as you say it did put a

on my face.

However just to temporarily get back on topic, I have confirmed my suspicions. Its definitely the Tom Tom cradle which seems to consume megawatts when the bike is parked,regardless of whether the sat nav is on it or not.
So now that I now the whys I haven't a clue about the wherefores.
Anyway looks as if a switch on the GPS cradle will sort it.

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:52 pm

result

nab 301 · Post by **nab 301** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 4:50 pm

eyore wrote:
So now that I now the whys I haven't a clue about the wherefores.
Anyway looks as if a switch on the GPS cradle will sort it.

Dare I suggest an olde worlde map ....instead of those sat nav wotsits

eyore · Post by **eyore** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:43 pm

nab 301 wrote:
eyore wrote:
So now that I now the whys I haven't a clue about the wherefores.
Anyway looks as if a switch on the GPS cradle will sort it.
Dare I suggest an olde worlde map ....instead of those sat nav wotsits

A map, a map, a map.....................nope, oh hang on one of those paper things

A map cant tell you what time you will be home, average speed max speed,distance to go, where the nearest petrol station or hotel is. I suspect you are a Nokia 6310 man Nigel

nab 301 · Post by **nab 301** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:10 pm

eyore wrote:
nab 301 wrote:
eyore wrote: I suspect you are a Nokia 6310 man Nigel

I am , but only because" they" removed all the public phone boxes......

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:46 pm

conkerman wrote:No fuses.

What a Swizz..

No user servicable parts inside is one step closer.

Which bikes have CANBUS so I can avoid them?

all of them (from BMW) I think, for the last 5 or 6 years I'd think

slparry · Post by **slparry** » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:49 pm

eyore wrote:
nab 301 wrote:
eyore wrote: So now that I now the whys I haven't a clue about the wherefores.
Anyway looks as if a switch on the GPS cradle will sort it.
Dare I suggest an olde worlde map ....instead of those sat nav wotsits
A map, a map, a map.....................nope, oh hang on one of those paper things A map cant tell you what time you will be home, average speed max speed,distance to go, where the nearest petrol station or hotel is. I suspect you are a Nokia 6310 man Nigel

hey don't dis them, I have one in a drawer somewhere and it will go for two weeks on one charge where modern smartphones won't make two days

Ok it doesn't have all the bells n whistles but as a phone it's an awesome device