iPhone envy?

[JoeC]

Old valve technology is alive and kicking - and yes I do beleive that they turn it on for a while to warm the components up.

Valves in the music industry is reputed to be the best sound you can get but it comes at a premium, you are talking thousands of pounds.

The old ones are the best.

[f90x]

Transistors appreciate a bit of warming up too. In the days when I listened to music at home a lot I would leave all my kit on all the time. That's my HIFI 'kit' not my leathers or my one piece rubber su.... Ooops

[throttlemeister]

So you'll be running large valve amplifiers then?

And do you still put the tv on five minutes early to let it 'warm up' before the main programme?

Actually, no. I run a modern solid state amplifier. Don't have the money to buy a good quality tube amp and don't have the knowledge to built one myself.

[throttlemeister]

Actually there's more information on vinyl. CD and mp3 et al cannot compete with the wider range of frequencies that vinyl has. Of course your hearing needs to be good enough to hear it but the vast majority of people are able to. Apart from the obvious hiss and crackle of ill kept vinyl the sound quality issue does not really count. Most CD's these days are made to perform well in relatively inexpensive stereo's (note that I didn't use the words 'HI FI') as most people might only have a one box system designed as a compromise to be all things to all men. (and women). To get a CD to sound as good and to relay as much information as vinyl your CD player will have to cost considrably more than the equivalent turntable in terms of sound quality.

I like CD's, its a great medium, and I have an Ipod that I use on my commute but the sound quality of either will NEVER match that of vinyl.

Sorry, gone rather off topic there. Probably to be continued somewhere else.

I am sorry, but the frequency response, dynamic range and channel seperation of vinyl are pathetic compared to modern digital alternatives. To suggest otherwise is complete bollox. (note I am not saying anything about how it sounds, but the cold hard numbers speak for themselves)

[f90x]

CD recordings are artificially fixed at 20Hz to 22kHz reproduction whereas an analogue vinyl record will have the full frequency range of all the instruments playing for any given recording. Don't tell me. You've got a pile of Mark Levinson kit so your CD's sound marvelous.

Could you show me the cold hard numbers you speak of?

[Cliff]

so anyway, the iphone... yes please. £500 no thanks. 1st generation anything apple no thanks. However they should have sorted all the bugs out before it gets over here.

Regards Cliff

[G4 Powerbook, Dual Core iMac, 5th Gen iPod]

[f90x]

However they should have sorted all the bugs out before it gets over here.

Regards Cliff

Will they bollox Anyway, what you need is something in bakelite and call people from the comfort of your own home.

[Me-109]

Any other sad gadget freaks out there?

Paul, you are obviously not alone....

[sandbar]

O.T.

Don't do it. You need a Nokia 6230, the best phone ever made.

From a luddite with vinyl records

Not quite - the 6310i phone was much better

And I have still got vinyls as well - although I haven't played any for about 15 yrs

sandbar

[f90x]

Yes, but it has no camera.

Waddaya got that you don't play anymore. I'll have it.

[sandbar]

Yes, but it has no camera.

So what? It is a phone!

Waddaya got that you don't play anymore. I'll have it.

I will get round to selling them one day - once I've transferred them to digital (for storage purposes - of course - vinyl does sound better). Mostly 60s and early 70s stuff. I will probably have to sell the Goodmans Magnums as well.

sandbar

[jivebiker]

I've heard vinyl with near DC bass, that makes you queasy at decent levels. You cant do that on digital!

I've got analogue and digital and like both, but I prefer the sound of analogue, although I prefer the convenience of my laptop music server.

As to phones... I rather like that big buttoned glove friendly one that was on the news today.