Adam

[winger]

Ever wondered what a pair of PVM's for a Fazer look like, went and bought a pair for a mate today,blimey there nice,drove through the Peak district on the way back,have they had some snow!!!,it looks a tough old life up there in the winter!!!.

[adamski49]

Had a quick look on the net... mmmm, nice. Which ones in particular?

I'm trying to avoid falling into the same trap I did with the S but failing miserably as I'm already sourcing fitment of an 'Ivans' kit

If funds allow the next thing on the list will be an Ohlins shock and fork springs... must resist

Out of interest, what settings did you end up with on the front end of the Fazer you set up? I've adjusted the rear and it feels a whole heap better but this has highlighted the front end and I had some savage patter exiting a bumpy corner

Adam

[winger]

Hi Adam

Gods knows what they are,5 spoke?? or ten if you count them singly,but made very well in comparison to my Dymags.

As for suspension,i'll have to ask,cuz i certainley can't remember,is Ivan kit,the jack up bars??,as for Ohlins!! same old story have heard even better reports than the S,i guess cuz the BM shock ain't so bad were as the jap stuff is iffy to say the least.

Chris

[adamski49]

Hi Chris

The Ivans is the carb modification that increases power through the mid and top end and smoothes out the buzzy feel around 4.5k. Apparently, if I want even more HP at a later date, I can just replace the end can without having to set it up again.

Compared to the S it's a simple and cheap way of adding 10 bhp. They are also dabbling with intake mods that add a further 10+ bhp... as if 120 at the back wheel isn't enough.

Have a look here. No point having fancy wheels and a bog standard engine

I keep reading about the jack up bars, or dog bones, but haven't investigated any further yet.

Cheers

Adam

[winger]

Hi Adam

My S has a bog standard engine with fancy wheels,from the Fazer i rode more than capable of bursting most fazers bubble except in a straight line!!,it cost a lot of money!! but that ain't the point!!

Chris

[adamski49]

I'm well aware of the Fazer's lesser cornering abilities, light wheels or not - there's no need to point it out

[Jason M]

I'm well aware of the Fazer's lesser cornering abilities, light wheels or not - there's no need to point it out

There were a pair of those PVMs for a Fazer on ebay the other day

Come on fellas - the Fazer is not THAT bad round the corners, and providing you've got the nerve to open it up early and are prepared to go a bit 'speedway' on the exit it'll be difficult to catch on the S I reckon. I really like mine a lot. I had to ride it for a few weeks in the winter and it was a right laugh in the slimey stuff.... well I say laugh.... it was either that or cry I don't think I get patter on the exits, more like the front being only just in contact with the ground and hopping over the bumps (I thought patter was something else TBH) - if it's trying to come off the ground because of the power then I don't suppose there is much you can do about it.

Suspenders sure are hard at the back after the technoflex on the S though. I've looked at the bones because I want to fit the lowered footpegs but don't want ot be dragging them along the ground all the time. I want to put some hight in the seat too if I ever do a long tour on it. I think it's got plenty of poke, and I can't imagine why you'd want more (unless you're willy is very very very small ) for the the road at least - just how much trouble do you want to get yourself in exactly

It's all about corners in my book, and I don't think I need 100+ BHP to get to the top of my limited skill/nerve combination.

Anyway - the Fazer is a cheap (I paid 3k for mine 2 years ago for goodness sake) way to get big smiles and I like it, even if it is a bit basic. It's still a whole lot better/faster/more skillfull than I am

Jason

[adamski49]

Come on fellas - the Fazer is not THAT bad round the corners,

Slightly tongue in cheek

There were a pair of those PVMs for a Fazer on ebay the other day

The front is light enough already so I won't be rushing out for a pair of these, no matter how pretty.

I don't think I get patter on the exits, more like the front being only just in contact with the ground and hopping over the bumps (I thought patter was something else TBH) - if it's trying to come off the ground because of the power then I don't suppose there is much you can do about it.

I experienced the light front end earlier on in the ride (a first at this high speed though ) but the patter was before I'd even begun to wind it on in anger. To be fair it was a bumpy back road and it just highlighted how good the telever front end is. I'm sure I can dial it out with all the adjustment I have to play with (I'm guessing less compression damping at the minute).

Suspenders sure are hard at the back after the technoflex on the S though.

I thought it was quite plush even after I wound preload up to max.

I think it's got plenty of poke, and I can't imagine why you'd want more (unless you're willy is very very very small ) for the the road at least - just how much trouble do you want to get yourself in exactly

It has but I want to lose some of the 4.5k buzz (all down to emissions regs I guess) and a bit of extra midrange is never a bad thing. Anyway, the advert said it added 2 inches so that'll make 3

It's all about corners in my book, and I don't think I need 100+ BHP to get to the top of my limited skill/nerve combination.

Anyway - the Fazer is a cheap (I paid 3k for mine 2 years ago for goodness sake) way to get big smiles and I like it, even if it is a bit basic. It's still a whole lot better/faster/more skillfull than I am

Jason

Ditto - I'm still trying to tame the beast but haven't had enough free time coinciding with dry days to go play. In the wet it's a peach, neutral handling and low revs with plenty of torque make it easy to cover ground.

Adam (aka Wee Willy Winky)

[Jason M]

Roll on the fine dry days then eh matey. Sometimes I think I prefer the wet/dark/slippery weather though cos

a) it makes me drive a lot more carefully
b) it gives me 'thrills' at much lower speeds
c) I don't get seen off by all and sundry on their 50cc scooters

The flippin S went 'speedway' on me on a roundabout the other evening and I very nearly parked a poo in my pants but at least I was only going 'relatively' slowly If that had happened at high speed I'd have probably parted company with the bike and had a arse to ground interface some big distance later.

I do like those technoflexes on the S though, and have enquired about a new shock for the Fazer - I've seen a few Ohlins go on ebay for about £350 but as the bikes get older hopefully the older shocks will get cheaper

Jason (even weeeeeeeer willy winky.... especially riding a bike in these temperatures )

[winger]

The PVM's on e-bay?? i've got e'm

The one thing the S has tought me after 30 years of Jap multis,you don't need a zillion horsepower to ride quick,my old FJ would murder my S in a straight line but the step in the power at 6 thou used to unsettle the suspension, i spent more time steadying the bike then getting down to the nitty gritty,hence why i've spent more time getting the S to run at it's optimum,the S that had i for sale!!,i actually rode it yesterday,nice bike but stock bike against stock bike i'd take the Fazer every time even though i found the Fazer bloody hard work to ride and suspension out of a christmas cracker!!!

Chris

[adamski49]

Jason

Get your dog bones from eBay here.

In case that deosn't work they're listed as 'Yamaha Fazer FZS 1000 Jack Up Kit' - At £12.00 + £1.50 P&P they've got to be worth a look. Recommended by one of the FOC-U members too.

Adam

[Jason M]

Jason

Get your dog bones from eBay here.

In case that deosn't work they're listed as 'Yamaha Fazer FZS 1000 Jack Up Kit' - At £12.00 + £1.50 P&P they've got to be worth a look. Recommended by one of the FOC-U members too.

Adam

Chears Adam - I saw them on an american site for about $68 new, but I've seen them go on ebay for a lot more than the 12+p&p - what a bargain! I'll get some next month

[winger]

Adam

Compression on the bottom of the leg,wound fully in,and then 10 clicks out.

Rebound fully in 5 clicks out.

Instead of the dog bones,dropped the fork legs through the yokes 5mm got the same result without his half struggleing to get on it,with rear jacked up.

[adamski49]

Thanks Chris

That agrees with my thoughts of too much compression - it's currently 6 so I'll wind it out 4.

Rebound is currently 7 but I'll see how I get on with less comp before fiddling with this one as well.

Pillions will have to suffer dog bones

Cheers

Adam

[adamski49]

Jason

Had the basic Ivan's slip on jet kit fitted yesterday

It's one hell of an improvement over standard. The midrange is more powerful and instant from any revs making it even easier to ride around town then, when you wind it on out of a 30 limit, it takes off like a scalded cat.

I know it wasn't exactly slow before but this makes it even more flexible and being in the right gear is even less important as it will pull out of any bend at any speed

Best £170 I've spent on a bike.

The full blown kit at £260 plus and end can is supposed to be pretty amazing too but I'm trying (struggling?) to stay in stealth mode with the standard can.

Adam